Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Nick — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:09:44 -500

When I mentioned creating different path types I was referring to the path creation tools such as line, rectangle, oval and round rectangle. These tools are create varieties of a graphic type called a path. A path is just a collection of lines, curves and arcs that form a shape to be filled or stroked (i.e., outlined).

I’m not sure what you’re trying to get to work with your swimming pool example. If you want the text to flow into a non-rectangular shape, that’s not a supported feature in the current software.

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

will — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:26:21 -500

Thanks, NIck:

WHat do you you mean by path tyypes?? Is that what they mean by path files? Iow, if I want to shape an outline of a text, wait.

say I have a pool service, they want to advertise their cleaning offer . Just website, toll free phone # and a price. (I am making this up to fit my problem…)

so I want to have a 10 and a half inch wide ad , shaped like a swimming pool in light blueish green background in stead of a rectangle like in a local newspaper. The TEXT of the ad copy would not know that the shape of the colored background was not a garden variety text box or frame, would it? so how come I can’t get this to work?

I’m a little older; I had to take computer science for my degree but I don;t understand what the apple geniuses are talking about, and the books don’t tell you how to do what I am trying to do….

best,

will

—- On Tue, 7/1/08, Nick wrote:

From: Nick Subject: Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier To: email@hidden Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:40 PM

But, say I wanted to dilate a copy of a circle and keep it concentric with the original. Can of course be done but …

Hold down the option key as you click on a resize handle to scale about the object’s center instead of the opposite corner or side. This also works when creating several path types (e.g., rectangles and ovals).

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Nick — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:40:19 -500

But, say I wanted to dilate a copy of a circle and keep it concentric with the original. Can of course be done but

Hold down the option key as you click on a resize handle to scale about the object’s center instead of the opposite corner or side. This also works when creating several path types (e.g., rectangles and ovals).

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Schremmer — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:01:58 -500

On Jul 1, 2008, at 8:26 AM, KeynoteKen wrote:

This is the way I’ve done it (had to do it recently)

1) Draw a circle (no fill) 2) Command-D 3) Hold down Shift while pressing UP-arrow and LEFT-arrow (this will place the duplicate directly over the original) 4) Hold down Option and Shift while clicking and dragging one of the corners

Then you’ll have concentric circles.

As I said, “Can of course be done but ”

Regards

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

KeynoteKen — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:26:32 -500

This is the way I’ve done it (had to do it recently)

1) Draw a circle (no fill) 2) Command-D 3) Hold down Shift while pressing UP-arrow and LEFT-arrow (this will place the duplicate directly over the original) 4) Hold down Option and Shift while clicking and dragging one of the corners

Then you’ll have concentric circles.

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Michael — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:25:44 -500

On Jun 30, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Nick wrote:

FWIW, you can visually select the origin for free rotate and shear by option clicking before performing the rotate or shear.

True: I rarely free rotate and had forgotten.

But, say I wanted to dilate a copy of a circle and keep it concentric with the original. Can of course be done but

You could shrink the copy and use the alignment tools to center it, but to keep the larger one from moving you would have to lock it. Kind of clumsy.

Being able to scale from the center is very useful for making concentric objects.

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Schremmer — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:23:48 -500

On Jun 30, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Nick wrote:

FWIW, you can visually select the origin for free rotate and shear by option clicking before performing the rotate or shear.

True: I rarely free rotate and had forgotten.

But, say I wanted to dilate a copy of a circle and keep it concentric with the original. Can of course be done but

Regards

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Michael — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:02:58 -500

Thanks for the tips. I can see there is a lot of power hidden in the app, I just need to read the help files more thoroughly.

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Nick — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:22:46 -500

FWIW, you can visually select the origin for free rotate and shear by option clicking before performing the rotate or shear.

You can convert arcs into Bezier curves via Object > Convert > Arcs To Curves.

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Re: Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Schremmer — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:18:43 -500

On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Michael wrote:

This is a great program, which coming from a long time illustrator user (since 1988) is high praise.

Ditto, coming from a long time Canvas user

There are just a few things I miss, like being able to choose the origin points visually that objects rotate, scale and reflect across. obviously the capability exists since it is in the dialogs for those functions.

At least, for “rotate/scale/shear about”, next to

X-position
Y-position

could there be “five points” like

o o o o o

on which to click to determine the center of rotation/scaling/shearing?

While I am about it: I use Flip Horizontal and Flip Vertical a lot but, at least as often, I use both flips to get a point symmetry. So, how about Flip Both Ways?

Hopeful regards

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Rotate,scale and reflect origin points and convert to bezier

Michael — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:07:42 -500

This is a great program, which coming from a long time illustrator user (since 1988) is high praise.

There are just a few things I miss, like being able to choose the origin points visually that objects rotate, scale and reflect across. obviously the capability exists since it is in the dialogs for those functions.

Another thing I miss is the ability to chop up shapes like ellipses and rounded rectangle and join them to other paths, so a convert to bezier path command would be great.

I have gotten tired of waiting for the gargantuan beast that illustrator has become to launch every time I need a little graphic, and Intaglio looks like a good solution.

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