Show/Hide layer action

I have a trial site at: www.paulbradforth.com/sg/

It has an initially visible block of text which is replaced by a picture when you roll over one of the two thumbnails. When switching between thumbnails, the block of text shows briefly. I’ve tried various ‘Restore’ and ‘Sticky’ settings in the Action palette, but none of them seem to do the trick.

Does anyone know how I can stop the text showing between thumbnails? The answer is probably that it can’t, as I do want the text to show when the cursor is not over a thumbnail.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Does anyone know how I can stop the text showing between thumbnails? The answer is probably that it can’t, as I do want the text to show when the cursor is not over a thumbnail.

I had a similar problem on this site here www.westcroftdesign.co.uk/lighting01.html

what I did was to place a blank image ( hidden ) on top of the image ( or in your case text ) that I wanted to hide between the thumbnails, then by placing a rollover trigger underneath all the thumbnails only the blank image shows, bit fiddly but it works, although it probably makes the site a little script heavy it was a trade off between function an efficiency

hope this helps

Gary

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On 24 Jun 2008, at 13:58, diarbyrag wrote:

what I did was to place a blank image ( hidden ) on top of the image ( or in your case text ) that I wanted to hide between the thumbnails, then by placing a rollover trigger underneath all the thumbnails only the blank image shows, bit fiddly but it works, although it probably makes the site a little script heavy it was a trade off between function an efficiency

hope this helps

Yes, I think it probably will; thanks Gary!

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 24 Jun 2008, at 13:58, diarbyrag wrote:

what I did was to place a blank image ( hidden ) on top of the image ( or in your case text ) that I wanted to hide between the thumbnails, then by placing a rollover trigger underneath all the thumbnails only the blank image shows,

Gary, could you elaborate on this bit - what form did the rollover trigger take; something like a large invisible box that covered everything?

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 24 Jun 2008, at 13:58, diarbyrag wrote: what form did the rollover trigger take; something like a large invisible box that covered everything?

Hi Paul,

I made an image layer just a fraction bigger all round than the thumbnails and made sure it was behind them all and applied the rollover action to it ( set restore to yes ) I then drew an image box over the top of all the main images and applied the show/hide layer action to it ( restore to yes ) set it to hidden and gave it a unique number in the same set as the thumbnails, then set the rollover to trigger that layer, in my case I just filled it with white which is the page colour so when you mouse over the spaces between the thumbnails the rollover triggers the blank white image so you do not get that flickering of the base image or text showing through.

hope that explains it ? if not or you have any problems you you can phone me via the number on my website

www.anglesphoto.co.uk

Have fun and hope it works

Gary

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homepage.mac.com/simon_aughton/links/freeway/image%20gallery/index.html

is this what you mean.

it worked for me with www.stuartawilkinson.com

if you need anymore advise let me know

tez

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On 24 Jun 2008, 11:49 am, paulbradforth wrote: Does anyone know how I can stop the text showing between thumbnails? The answer is probably that it can’t, as I do want the text to show when the cursor is not over a thumbnail.

Hi Paul,

I have made you a file to show how I think it would work for you www.anglesphoto.co.uk/paulbtest.freeway

for clarity I have made the rollover trigger yellow but it would normally be white and therefore invisible

hope this helps

Gary

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On 25 Jun 2008, at 11:50, diarbyrag wrote:

I have made you a file to show how I think it would work for you www.anglesphoto.co.uk/paulbtest.freeway

for clarity I have made the rollover trigger yellow but it would normally be white and therefore invisible

Gary, thanks for this, it’s help above and beyond the call of duty :-)

But when I click the link, the file appears in binary text in the browser rather than downloading. Tried saying ‘download linked file’ in Mail, but nothing happened.

However, your earlier instructions by mail were perfectly clear enough, thanks. And I still can’t make it work. I’ve made a blank white image, in the right place, made the rollover for it, also in the right place, linked ‘em all together. What happens is that when I mouseover the space between thumbnails, the blank white one does appear, as it should, but not before I’ve had a quick flash of the text that needs to be hidden. There seems to be a point where it shows the text, briefly, no matter what I do. I’ve uploaded it again, with your instructions applied, at: www.paulbradforth.com/sg/

The odd thing is that the flash of text cannot be made permanent, ie, if you mouse from one thumbnail to the other, you get the flash of text before the blank one comes up and hides it, but if you then immediately mouse back again, very slowly, you can’t find a spot where the text is permanently visible.

I’m also now getting a millisecond of white flash as whichever rollover is rolled-over loads its image.

Any ideas?

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 24 Jun 2008, at 23:48, terry mcshane wrote:

homepage.mac.com/simon_aughton/links/freeway/image%20gallery/ index.html

is this what you mean.

it worked for me with www.stuartawilkinson.com

if you need anymore advise let me know

Thanks for this Terry, although it doesn’t fix it; see my recent mail to Gary …

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 25 Jun 2008, at 11:50, diarbyrag wrote: But when I click the link, the file appears in binary text in the browser rather than downloading. Tried saying ‘download linked file’ in Mail, but nothing happened.

I tried it before I replied here, I clicked on it which shows as a binary file and firefox asked me what I wanted to do with it, downloaded it and the file was just there, opened it fine in FW

if you email me at email@hidden

I’ll send it to you

Gary

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On 25 Jun 2008, at 14:32, diarbyrag wrote:

I tried it before I replied here, I clicked on it which shows as a binary file and firefox asked me what I wanted to do with it, downloaded it and the file was just there, opened it fine in FW

Ah, I’m using Safari, and it didn’t ask me anything …

Have since got your email, for which, thanks :-)

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Here’s a thought - and I haven’t tried it so don’t know if it will work or not.

Put the 2 thumbnails in a 2 cell table and use the cells for the rollover trigger.

Then there will be no space between them.

David

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On 25 Jun 2008, at 19:00, DeltaDave wrote:

Here’s a thought - and I haven’t tried it so don’t know if it will work or not.

Put the 2 thumbnails in a 2 cell table and use the cells for the rollover trigger.

Then there will be no space between them.

Interesting, thanks Dave …

Not sure I can put a table in the layout, but I’ll give it a go.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Just having a go at this and applying the rollover/show hide to a cell seems to be a problem.

But you can apply ‘Observer’ to a cell and then maybe use Prototype or scriptaculous for yor show/hide effect.

Walter! This is your field.

David

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Unfortunately, Observer can be applied to a table cell, but it doesn’t do anything there. Table cells don’t have IDs, so there’s nothing for it to hook into.

You could use Protaculous to apply the Scriptaculous library to your page, then add the call to observe long-hand using the Extended dialog in Freeway.

Click on your cell, then choose Extend from the left-most tab in the Inspector. Click new, then in the name field, enter ‘onmouseover’ (without the quotes) and in the Value field enter ‘new Effect.Highlight(this);’

Note that you will not be able to use more specific notation than “this” to describe the cells unless you use the Extended dialog to add an ID to the table cell or row. But Prototype gives you enormous power to “walk the DOM” and make an action on “this” translate into something entirely else.

Try this trick for size:

Change the event from onmouseover to onclick. Then change the function from new Effect… to the following:

new Effect.BlindUp(this.up('tr').next('tr'));

This little bit of whimsy uses Prototype’s powerful accessor functions to take ‘this’ up to the parent TR then on to the next TR in the table.

Note that this probably won’t work on IE in a “vanilla” Freeway table, because you must use the (optional according to the W3C and everybody else) TBODY tag in your table code in order to manipulate TRs in that wonderful browser-shaped object.

Walter

On Jun 25, 2008, at 2:31 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

But you can apply ‘Observer’ to a cell and then maybe use Prototype or scriptaculous for yor show/hide effect.

Walter! This is your field.

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On 24 Jun 2008, 11:49 am, paulbradforth wrote: Does anyone know how I can stop the text showing between thumbnails? The answer is probably that it can’t, as I do want the text to show when the cursor is not over a thumbnail.

Having spoken to Paul, we have discovered that the problem disappears when you remove the border from the thumbnails, you still need the blank rollover to stop the text showing in between the thumbnails however, does anyone think this bug in FW or an inherent problem with browsers ?

Gary

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I have been playing with this - do you think this is any better than having the blank rollover.

www.deltadzine.net/test/rollovertest.html

David

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On 25 Jun 2008, 9:47 pm, DeltaDave wrote:

I have been playing with this - do you think this is any better than having the blank rollover.

that seems to work really well Dave

we await your method with baited breathe :-)

Gary

always interested in a simpler method, you tend to try and find a workround and sometimes you ( read I ) pick a longer method.

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On 25 Jun 2008, at 22:47, DeltaDave wrote:

I have been playing with this - do you think this is any better than having the blank rollover.

www.deltadzine.net/test/rollovertest.html

I appreciate it David, but this looks the same as my initial effort, with no ‘blanking’ rollover to hide the text when rolling from one thumbnail to the other. I see a quick flash of text between the two states, just what prompted me to write to the list about this …

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Yes I know - there is a flash of text layer there - it is not the perfect solution. Is there one?

But what you do get is the appearance of a smoother transition between the thumbnails because they are actually graphic items inserted into adjoining table cells with no gap between them.

The left hand thumb has a section of transparency either side of the image to fill the cell.

Which brings me back to my question about whether or not 2 adjoining cells could act as the rollover triggers without giving the text flicker when passing between them.

I know Walter offered some insight into this but I am afraid a mere mortal like me finds this to be way over my head without a lot of serious study.

And whose to say that it would overcome the flicker problem anyway. Maybe that is just how the browsers work.

I think sometimes we strive too hard to achieve something that the average surfer wouldn’t even notice - let’s face it there are plenty of abominations out there that Joe Average finds perfectly acceptable.

And so to bed!

David

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On 26 Jun 2008, 12:43 am, DeltaDave wrote:

Yes I know - there is a flash of text layer there - it is not the perfect solution. Is there one?

I tried it again this morning using Safari and it does flicker, hardly any in Firefox.

anyway I have uploaded a test file with the new workround and it appears fine, I have not tried it in IE on windows, but I will this afternoon.

www.anglesphoto.co.uk/fwtest/index.html

you can also download the FW file if you like ( right/control click in Safari > download file as, otherwise you get a page full of text )

Gary

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Hi Guys,

Apply the Transition FX Action to each rollover and set it to Fade the item with the text on mouseover with duration of 0, and no toggle.

Hope this helps.

Joe

On 26 Jun 2008, at 01:43, DeltaDave wrote:

Yes I know - there is a flash of text layer there - it is not the perfect solution. Is there one?

But what you do get is the appearance of a smoother transition between the thumbnails because they are actually graphic items inserted into adjoining table cells with no gap between them.

The left hand thumb has a section of transparency either side of the image to fill the cell.

Which brings me back to my question about whether or not 2 adjoining cells could act as the rollover triggers without giving the text flicker when passing between them.

I know Walter offered some insight into this but I am afraid a mere mortal like me finds this to be way over my head without a lot of serious study.

And whose to say that it would overcome the flicker problem anyway. Maybe that is just how the browsers work.

I think sometimes we strive too hard to achieve something that the average surfer wouldn’t even notice - let’s face it there are plenty of abominations out there that Joe Average finds perfectly acceptable.

And so to bed!

David

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 10:39, Joe Billings wrote:

Apply the Transition FX Action to each rollover and set it to Fade the item with the text on mouseover with duration of 0, and no toggle.

Hope this helps.

Joe, do you mean this advice to be applied:

a) to my original version, with no ‘blanking’ white image b) Gary’s version WITH the ‘blanking’ white image or c) David’s table version?

I haven’t actually tried David’s version, as these thumbnails need to be placed ‘oddly’ and at angles etc, so a table would put too much structure on them. But I’ve tried it on Gary’s version, and what seems to happen is that it works a treat, until you roll off all thumbnails, whereupon the text doesn’t reappear. I do have restore set to ‘yes’ on that one, by the way.

Actually, this is all academic, as I showed the client two different techniques, one of which I had no trouble at all with so didn’t need to ask here, and have not shown you. This morning, he picked that one, so I won’t be using this technique anyway. Mind you, it didn’t stop me spending an hour or two just trying to get it to work for the hell of it :-)

Thanks to Gary, David and Joe for their contributions. When I have a bit of time, I’ll get to the bottom of all this, but right now, I have a site to design …

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Sorry, I meant to your original.

Take a look: users.softpress.com/joe/Target/

and the file: users.softpress.com/joe/Target/Test.zip

Joe

On 26 Jun 2008, at 12:27, Paul Bradforth wrote:

On 26 Jun 2008, at 10:39, Joe Billings wrote:

Apply the Transition FX Action to each rollover and set it to Fade the item with the text on mouseover with duration of 0, and no toggle.

Hope this helps.

Joe, do you mean this advice to be applied:

a) to my original version, with no ‘blanking’ white image b) Gary’s version WITH the ‘blanking’ white image or c) David’s table version?

I haven’t actually tried David’s version, as these thumbnails need to be placed ‘oddly’ and at angles etc, so a table would put too much structure on them. But I’ve tried it on Gary’s version, and what seems to happen is that it works a treat, until you roll off all thumbnails, whereupon the text doesn’t reappear. I do have restore set to ‘yes’ on that one, by the way.

Actually, this is all academic, as I showed the client two different techniques, one of which I had no trouble at all with so didn’t need to ask here, and have not shown you. This morning, he picked that one, so I won’t be using this technique anyway. Mind you, it didn’t stop me spending an hour or two just trying to get it to work for the hell of it :-)

Thanks to Gary, David and Joe for their contributions. When I have a bit of time, I’ll get to the bottom of all this, but right now, I have a site to design …

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 13:23, Joe Billings wrote:

Sorry, I meant to your original.

Take a look: users.softpress.com/joe/Target/

and the file: users.softpress.com/joe/Target/Test.zip

Thanks Joe, much appreciated. This works perfectly but for one thing: when you mouse away from all the thumbnails, the text doesn’t reappear.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Paul said:

one of which I had no trouble at all with so didn’t need to ask here, and have not shown you.

Share it with us will you please (when ready) - always looking for alternate solutions.

David

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 16:58, DeltaDave wrote:

Paul said:

one of which I had no trouble at all with so didn’t need to ask here, and have not shown you.

Share it with us will you please (when ready) - always looking for alternate solutions.

Hmm. It’s at www.paulbradforth.com/sg2/ but, don’t shoot me, it wasn’t done using Freeway …

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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RAPIDWEAVER - Off with his head!

Seriously though a nice clean, simple site but the star of the show for me is his funky furniture.

Is it just commission only?

DAvid

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 17:27, DeltaDave wrote:

RAPIDWEAVER - Off with his head!

Seriously though a nice clean, simple site but the star of the show for me is his funky furniture.

Is it just commission only?

I’m not sure, but I can find out. He’s actually a model maker, and you can see his ‘main’ site at www.sgmm.co.uk which WAS done in Freeway, years ago. I’m ashamed of it now, due to the bizarre and non-intuitive navigation (the menu items are sections, and the ‘Back’ and ‘Next’ buttons navigate through the sections, but I’d never do that these days). I don’t think he does much of that these days; he’s been overtaken by 3D modelling applications.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Hmm. It’s at www.paulbradforth.com/sg2/ but, don’t shoot me, it wasn’t done using Freeway …

Paul that would have been a doddle to produce in Freeway !

I tried my technique in all browsers and it worked fine.

can’t win ‘em all

learned a bit on the way tho !

as long as Joe client is happy :-)

Gary

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 12:27, Paul Bradforth wrote: But I’ve tried it on Gary’s version, and what seems to happen is that it works a treat, until you roll off all thumbnails, whereupon the text doesn’t reappear. I do have restore set to ‘yes’ on that one, by the way.

PS I just tried this in 5 different browsers and it works just fine ( apart from IE5 on the Mac where the images appear above the thumbs )

www.anglesphoto.co.uk/fwtest/index.html

I remember Stephen Greenfield from the 80’s. good model maker. have got and old journal with his ads in it.

it was step > hen > green > field

fun days > not a computer in sight > bliss :-) > please bring back 5x4 film !

Gary

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On 27 Jun 2008, at 12:57, terry mcshane wrote:

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best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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On 26 Jun 2008, at 23:23, diarbyrag wrote:

I remember Stephen Greenfield from the 80’s. good model maker. have got and old journal with his ads in it.

it was step > hen > green > field

That’s the fella.

fun days > not a computer in sight > bliss :-) > please bring back 5x4 film !

Blimey. If I had a bob for every sheet of 5x4 I’ve shot over the past 40 years, I’d be rich. Wouldn’t like to see it back though, I like digital too much … although I do miss camera movements somewhat :-)

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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… although I do miss camera movements somewhat :-)

That’s what Photoshop is for…

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On 3 Jul 2008, 6:16 pm, chuckamuck wrote: That’s what Photoshop is for…

tut tut !! blasphamy ! photoshop is brilliant but to me as an old timer ( 55 ) real photography meant doing it right when you took the shot, post production was for Hollywood :-)

I love PS though and it has changed the way I do things as I now tend to think ahead of what I might do in PS later. doesn’t make the work that much quicker though some days.

as for the 5x4 thing, I can’t get used to working with images the right way up in the viewfinder, spent 25 years working upside down !

now if I could get an adaptor to put my Canon 5D on the back of my Sinar P2 that might make it worth something !

Gary

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… post production was for Hollywood :-)

Hollywood rules! ;-)

Oh by the way, your not alone in the age category…

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On 3 Jul 2008, 7:23 pm, chuckamuck wrote: Oh by the way, your not alone in the age category…

Thanks chuckamuck !

nice to know I am in good company ( as always on the FW list ) oops ! nearly said the f word !

Gary

( forum that is ! )

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On 3 Jul 2008, at 19:59, diarbyrag wrote:

now if I could get an adaptor to put my Canon 5D on the back of my Sinar P2 that might make it worth something !

Here you go:

www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/canon-view-camera.html

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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now if I could get an adaptor to put my Canon 5D on the back of my Sinar P2 that might make it worth something !

Here you go:

Cheers Paul,

could be very useful that, I know you can get a Hasselblad adapter for the Sinar, but a Canon one could prove very useful for a project I have in mind, even a home made one.

The other article on the site about making a digital pinhole camera is interesting too.

Gary

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Look on eBay. There’s a whole bunch of them there (in the US eBay, anyway) if you search for 4x5 digital back. There’s Canon and Nikon, and they also have the ability to shift the camera laterally within the (much larger than 35mm) 4x5 frame. They look new and professionally made.

Walter

On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:50 AM, diarbyrag wrote:

but a Canon one could prove very useful for a project I have in mind, even a home made one.

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On 4 Jul 2008, 2:30 pm, waltd wrote:

Look on eBay. There’s a whole bunch of them there (in the US eBay, anyway) if you search for 4x5 digital back. There’s Canon and Nikon, and they also have the ability to shift the camera laterally within the (much larger than 35mm) 4x5 frame. They look new and professionally made.

Cheers Walter,

yes they do look well made, actually made by the widepan company by the looks of it. they make really good wideangle film cameras.

will follow that up

thanks again

Gary

made me laugh that the ebay traders name in China is shoo - ting :-)

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I still have a roll-film back for my view camera somewhere. It takes 120 or 220 film, and just slips into the back of the camera like any other film holder. I think it was made by Calumet or at least I got it from them. This reminds me of that quite a lot, although the focal- length disparity was not nearly so great, since I was only stepping down from 1016mm x 1270mm to 600mm x 700mm, not all the way to 24mm x 36mm. (This really reminds me why we used such massive film areas — you really do get the pixels you pay for!)

One of my professors at RIT had the other side of the equation — a lens plate that had a Hasselblad adapter on it, so you could use those amazing Zeiss lenses on your view camera. He shot food for a living, and swore by the Zeiss 120mm lens for 4x5 film. It had plenty of coverage (no vignetting), and there was something about that focal length that really woke up the food.

Walter

On Jul 5, 2008, at 7:03 AM, diarbyrag wrote:

On 4 Jul 2008, 2:30 pm, waltd wrote:

Look on eBay. There’s a whole bunch of them there (in the US eBay, anyway) if you search for 4x5 digital back. There’s Canon and Nikon, and they also have the ability to shift the camera laterally within the (much larger than 35mm) 4x5 frame. They look new and professionally made.

Cheers Walter,

yes they do look well made, actually made by the widepan company by the looks of it. they make really good wideangle film cameras.

will follow that up

thanks again

Gary

made me laugh that the ebay traders name in China is shoo - ting :-)

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On 5 Jul 2008, at 16:54, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

I still have a roll-film back for my view camera somewhere. It takes 120 or 220 film, and just slips into the back of the camera like any other film holder. I think it was made by Calumet or at least I got it from them.

I had the exact same one. I used to use it on my Sinar and in the 80s when we started to have a bit of a recession, a lot of my clients realised that it was pointless to get me to shoot pictures on 5x4 that were only reproduced at about two inches square in a magazine. Film and processing price alone for 5x4, even back then, was around £30-40 (three sheets of 6118, a few Polaroid 55s). I could have told them that earlier, but they wouldn’t have listened; they’d always have 5x4 ‘just in case’. When the recession hit, they suddenly thought that 6x7cm might, just might, be a good idea. From that time on, I must have put thousands of rolls through that roll film back. I wore it out eventually and had to get another, although I forget the make of that one.

This reminds me of that quite a lot, although the focal- length disparity was not nearly so great, since I was only stepping down from 1016mm x 1270mm to 600mm x 700mm, not all the way to 24mm x 36mm. (This really reminds me why we used such massive film areas — you really do get the pixels you pay for!)

Being a still-life photographer, I rarely needed much in the way of wide angle, and I found that the apparent ‘lengthening’ of the focal length was quite handy. Less distortion, greater working distance etc. I did a lot of packs, and the greater length meant my 150mm Schneider, short on 5x4, was lovely. Mind you, I had a 210mm as well, but when shooting straight down on the floor, that could be a little long.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

www.paulbradforth.com

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Haha! That takes me back to one set where I had to focus with Polaroid, since I couldn’t get my head behind the camera back — it was shoved right up to the ceiling!

Walter

On Jul 5, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Paul Bradforth wrote:

Mind you, I had a 210mm as well, but when shooting straight down on the floor, that could be a little long.

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On 5 Jul 2008, 4:54 pm, waltd wrote:

Haha! That takes me back to one set where I had to focus with Polaroid, since I couldn’t get my head behind the camera back — it was shoved right up to the ceiling!

Polaroid, a major victim of digitisation, when I do any shots in my studio now I have nothing to pin up on the wall !

All the Polaroid stock I have left is now past it’s use bye date and that very rarely happened…

and yes it is strange how you have a favourite lens, must be a photographer thing…

Gary

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At the risk of stretching this too far off topic, that would have to be the 50MM Distagon, for the Hasselblad C and similar. I used it for a large series of environmental portraits for a now-defunct Phoenix AZ business magazine. Nothing at all even comes close for showing the sweep of a room along with a foreground subject in visible-pores clarity. I wish I still owned that equipment, had to sell when I changed careers.

Walter

On Jul 5, 2008, at 2:08 PM, diarbyrag wrote:

and yes it is strange how you have a favourite lens, must be a photographer thing…

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On 5 Jul 2008, 6:33 pm, waltd wrote:

At the risk of stretching this too far off topic, that would have to be the 50MM Distagon, for the Hasselblad C and similar.

I’d agree on that Walter, I still have a 50MM Distagon, but it is the F series lens with no shutter, got the focal plane Blad, wonderful too because it is f/2.8.

beautiful piece of glass ! and much sharper than anything else I have used.

Gary

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Just to chime in I too enjoy the off topic photog talk dale d On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:15 PM, diarbyrag wrote:

On 5 Jul 2008, 6:33 pm, waltd wrote:

At the risk of stretching this too far off topic, that would have to be the 50MM Distagon, for the Hasselblad C and similar.

I’d agree on that Walter, I still have a 50MM Distagon, but it is the F series lens with no shutter, got the focal plane Blad, wonderful too because it is f/2.8.

beautiful piece of glass ! and much sharper than anything else I have used.

Gary

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On 5 Jul 2008, 7:37 pm, dale d wrote:

Just to chime in I too enjoy the off topic photog talk dale d

Hi Dale, please feel free to chime in any time you like :-)

the worst that can happen is to start a new thread !

Gary

we make virtual friends and learn lots of stuff that way…

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Sorry to jump in here

dale d 5 Jul 2008, 8:37 pm

What ever happened about that Browsercam purchase Dale D (Tom)?

Did you end up with 2 licences after all.

If so is there still one free.

David

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