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swimmer35

20 Jan 2010, 6:13 pm

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Good afternoon,

I am working on a clients site and I am running into an issue.

If you look at the site (it is not even close for critiques) the logo on the top left is a gif. It originally is a jpeg but through past advice changed it to a gif in FW. it still does not look smooth. The only thing I did to it was remove the background Can anyone give me any advice to how to smooth the edges out? http://www.babybootyshop.com (original graphic) http://www.grassrootsweb.net/misty

Thank you..

BTW - I have finally upgraded my computer - from a pb g4 17” matte to a macbook Pro glossy 17” WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! I CAN SEE… LOL

Julie

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DeltaDave

20 Jan 2010, 6:51 pm

the logo on the top left is a gif

It is actually a png - you may have imported a gif but it is set to output as a png

It appears that you have some white bits left on the perimeter that are making it look bitty.

What file were you working from - did the client send you a full size image - or did you get it from their website?

Start with as high res an image as possible

David

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

swimmer35

20 Jan 2010, 8:29 pm

Dave,

Actually it started as a jpeg then in ps I took out the background only and the only way to keep that way is to save it for web and design - which goes to a gif format

Julie

On Jan 20, 2010, at 14:50, DeltaDave <email@hidden> wrote:

the logo on the top left is a gif

It is actually a png - you may have imported a gif but it is set to output as a png

It appears that you have some white bits left on the perimeter that are making it look bitty.

What file were you working from - did the client send you a full size image - or did you get it from their website?

Start with as high res an image as possible

David

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DeltaDave

20 Jan 2010, 8:53 pm

It was a png when I looked earlier - you must have updated the site - I downloaded babybootyshoplogo.png

It doesn’t matter what format it is when you import into FW - the output depends on the settings in the image inspector.

But as I said earlier the fact that you have some white bits left round it dont help its bittiness.

How big is the original file - this is the one that you want to take the background off but keep it as a psd and import that into FW and then use the image inspector to try different outputs.

D

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

DeltaDave

20 Jan 2010, 9:01 pm

And BTW your background image is HUGE at 1.2MB - reduce this drastically by changing the compression etc in PS - the quality does not have to be that good as a background image.

D

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

DeltaDave

20 Jan 2010, 9:24 pm

Your page with images tweaked http://www.deltadzine.net/test/misty.html

D

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

swimmer35

20 Jan 2010, 10:42 pm

I did change it to a gif. On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:53 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

It was a png when I looked earlier - you must have updated the site - I downloaded babybootyshoplogo.png

It doesn’t matter what format it is when you import into FW - the output depends on the settings in the image inspector.

But as I said earlier the fact that you have some white bits left round it dont help its bittiness.

How big is the original file - this is the one that you want to take the background off but keep it as a psd and import that into FW and then use the image inspector to try different outputs.

D

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swimmer35

20 Jan 2010, 10:43 pm

Thank you I will work on it tonight.. and get back to you

J On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:53 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

It was a png when I looked earlier - you must have updated the site - I downloaded babybootyshoplogo.png

It doesn’t matter what format it is when you import into FW - the output depends on the settings in the image inspector.

But as I said earlier the fact that you have some white bits left round it dont help its bittiness.

How big is the original file - this is the one that you want to take the background off but keep it as a psd and import that into FW and then use the image inspector to try different outputs.

D

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DeltaDave

20 Jan 2010, 10:58 pm

Note that the background image I used was a fifth of the size of yours and I will be surprised if you see a noticeable difference.

In fact you could probably reduce it quite a bit more

http://www.deltadzine.net/test/misty.html

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

swimmer35

20 Jan 2010, 11:15 pm

Funny thing is that It is an iphone pix - not huge .. yes I used it on the background instead of a graphic.

J

On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:58 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Note that the background image I used was a fifth of the size of yours and I will be surprised if you see a noticeable difference.

In fact you could probably reduce it quite a bit more

http://www.deltadzine.net/test/misty.html

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swimmer35

21 Jan 2010, 1:11 am

Dave,

I worked on the image - I think it looks smoother - not top notch yet..

I dont really see a noticable difference at all.

Thank you

J

http://www.grassrootsweb.net/misty On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:58 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Note that the background image I used was a fifth of the size of yours and I will be surprised if you see a noticeable difference.

In fact you could probably reduce it quite a bit more

http://www.deltadzine.net/test/misty.html

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thatkeith

21 Jan 2010, 7:01 am

Sometime around 20/1/10 (at 18:42 -0500) Julie Maxwell Allen said:

I did change it to a gif.

But WHERE did you change it to a GIF?

You mentioned using Photoshop’s Save for Web feature - this is almost entirely unnecessary. Save it as a native Photoshop file (.psd) and import that, then set tthe format it wil be output from Freew3ay using the Inspector palette.

k

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swimmer35

21 Jan 2010, 12:37 pm

Good Morning Keith,

THat is what i ended up doing.. so the logo in there is a psd. It looks sharper - but…… J On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:01 AM, Keith Martin wrote:

Sometime around 20/1/10 (at 18:42 -0500) Julie Maxwell Allen said:

I did change it to a gif.

But WHERE did you change it to a GIF?

You mentioned using Photoshop’s Save for Web feature - this is almost entirely unnecessary. Save it as a native Photoshop file (.psd) and import that, then set tthe format it wil be output from Freew3ay using the Inspector palette.

k

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DeltaDave

21 Jan 2010, 3:42 pm

If you look at my example the background image is the same dimensions as your original ie 1600 x 1200 but only 278k whereas your revised one is 960 × 1280 and 637.18KB

You have only actually reduced its dimensions to get it smaller and probably not changed compression.

The BBlogo is much better but still some stuff round the edges. Personally I would import the psd into FW and export as a png with millions of colours.

As I said before

How big is the original file - this is the one that you want to take the background off

Work on as large a file for the logo as you have available if necessary increase the res from 72 if that is what it was - remove the white/extra bits with the eraser or whatever in PS - save as psd and then import.

If you use the eraser on a low res file the chunks you rub out will be larger and you will get the stepped effect.

David

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Glasgow, Scotland

iMac 27 Snow and Pro 5.6.3

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thatkeith

21 Jan 2010, 4:29 pm

Sometime around 21/1/10 (at 11:42 -0500) DeltaDave said:

Work on as large a file for the logo as you have available if necessary increase the res from 72 if that is what it was

Dangerous advice Dave! :-) Resolution resampling stuff requires some proper understanding of how image resolution works.

If you use the eraser on a low res file the chunks you rub out will be larger and you will get the stepped effect.

True. Julie, I think the best approach is indeed to output as a PNG set to millions of colours, as that won’t produce the 1-bit clipping ‘transparency’ halo. The second-best option would be to set the anti-aliasing for those images to a darkish grey, in Freeway. I am of course assuming that the graphics have nicer-looking edges in Freeway’s design view.

k

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