text link style woes!

Just jumped from 4 to 5 and am converting sites. I have come up against a problem with text link style action. Is this defunct in 5, I also use an external CSS stylesheet is this also going to cause problems. Just point me in the right direction and turn the key!.

Many thanks

Adam

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Text Link Style Action will continue to work, but it isn’t necessary. The same tools are now in the native interface. Select any element on the page, click on the Style tab of the Inspector, and open up the Links segment.

External Stylesheets are still just fine, and still won’t do anything in design view, but will still work in Preview.

Walter

On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:03 PM, ummedia wrote:

Just jumped from 4 to 5 and am converting sites. I have come up against a problem with text link style action. Is this defunct in 5, I also use an external CSS stylesheet is this also going to cause problems. Just point me in the right direction and turn the key!.

Many thanks

Adam

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Thanks Walter, I’ll have a look tomorrow. Did you see the image swap action working? Its great it gives me back so much space to allow comments!

Thanks again

Adam

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Walter I removed the action and tried clicking on a table, but I dont see any style tab in the Inspector amd I missing something?

many thanks

Adam

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Wow, you’re right! Table elements (and their child cells) are entirely missing the Style tab. This seems like a real problem. I take back what I said about the Action not being needed any longer. I’m filing a bug report, too.

Walter

On Mar 10, 2010, at 5:54 AM, ummedia wrote:

Walter I removed the action and tried clicking on a table, but I dont see any style tab in the Inspector amd I missing something?

many thanks

Adam

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Not sure the text link style astion will work on tables Walter, thats why I posted in the first place because my rollovers had stopped working. How would you now create these tables in FW5? Is there a new way? I might as well learn how to do if there is.

many thanks

Adam

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Hi Walt any news on this from Softpress and any ideas how I get my text links working within tables as everything ive built is pretty much in a table.

thank you

Adam

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No word, but it’s an official feature request at least. The table tool didn’t change from version 4 to 5. You use it the same way. The content in your tables, is it tabular data, or are you drawing tables for some other (layout) reason?

Walter

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Walter I did it for Layout so I had more control of, say a right hand column, left hand column etc. all objects within the table. Is this the wrong way now?

Adam

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It’s always been the wrong way. If you want a table-based layout, turn off CSS Layout (big blue button) and draw HTML boxes. Freeway will automatically create a layout table for you, and if you set these boxes to Height Can Shrink, you will magically get a perfect layout without much effort.

Drawing a table with the table tool comes with a bunch of baggage and limitations that I suspect are there to discourage people from doing just this. The magic layout tables that Freeway makes in non-layer layout mode are significantly better in terms of reinforcing a page that will look correct in a wide range of browsers.

Walter

On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:36 PM, ummedia wrote:

Walter I did it for Layout so I had more control of, say a right hand column, left hand column etc. all objects within the table. Is this the wrong way now?

Adam

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Is this what you do to create your pages Walter or do you use CSS now? Thank you for the excellent advice. I thought by using the tables to constrict my graphics and text I was ensuring the layout wouldnt bak in other browsers. Shows whatt you dont know.

Adam

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It depends on the layout and the content. For some things, tables are just naturally better. For others, floating layers. For still others, inline layers. I try not to make things fit a particular working method, but let the content guide my design.

A lot of my Freeway pages don’t have very much in them, but have their content supplied by the server through a database and application server. If you looked at them in Freeway, you’d probably see mostly empty boxes with markup items or instances of the Crowbar Action in them.

Walter

On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:14 PM, ummedia wrote:

Is this what you do to create your pages Walter or do you use CSS now? Thank you for the excellent advice. I thought by using the tables to constrict my graphics and text I was ensuring the layout wouldnt bak in other browsers. Shows whatt you dont know.

Adam

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Walter what would you do when creating a sidebar that needs the EE action? Do you put all your objects into an EE actioned html box(paste inside) or do you call each object that needs entry information separately? I think I know the answer but would like to set up the page properly.

many thanks

Adam

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You’d better ask Joe — I haven’t used that myself. If you don’t know precisely how many things are going to be in your sidebar — if the application server will be generating the list as well as filling it with data — then my guess would be that you apply the action to the container and then delegate the individual item creation to EE. You would need to look at the generated code and come up with some stylesheet selectors that would match these results, and apply your visual design that way.

Walter

On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:25 AM, ummedia wrote:

Walter what would you do when creating a sidebar that needs the EE action? Do you put all your objects into an EE actioned html box(paste inside) or do you call each object that needs entry information separately? I think I know the answer but would like to set up the page properly.

many thanks

Adam

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Wlater I just dont get this, sorry. I have an html box with text in some of the text has links so I want to make the text behave in a certain way on hover etc. I cant find the style tab you talked about earlier in the thread. I can style the whole page and have done so but I thought I could style individual elements. Sorry for being such a thickie.

Adam

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Click on the HTML box you are discussing here. Then look in the Inspector, in the Style (paintbrush) tab, in the Links segment. You will see four styles for setting the basic Link, Visited, Hover, Active states, and you can also click the More button to see a way to assign complete CSS style sets to each state. This will be true for any layered HTML box on the page. If you are dealing with a table- based layout (CSS Layout button off) then you will have to use the Link Style Action instead.

Walter

On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:26 PM, ummedia wrote:

Wlater I just dont get this, sorry. I have an html box with text in some of the text has links so I want to make the text behave in a certain way on hover etc. I cant find the style tab you talked about earlier in the thread. I can style the whole page and have done so but I thought I could style individual elements. Sorry for being such a thickie.

Adam

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Thanks walter, After reading your reply thoroughly I worked out the problem I didnt have it set as a layer, as soon as I turned that on the links showed up. It being a layer now wont effect the rst of the setup will it as I have all layers turned off.

thanks

again

adam

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It depends on the rest of your layout whether this will be a problem. Layered items don’t “respect their neighbors” the way that table-based items do. If the text in your layer grows, it won’t push its surrounding elements away — it will just float over and overlap them. This is why you will hear of people wrestling with the inline layout technique. They want to use layers because tables aren’t “cool” for layout purposes, but they want the elements to react to one another.

All I can say is try it — it might be okay.

Walter

On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:52 PM, ummedia wrote:

It being a layer now wont effect the rst of the setup will it as I have all layers turned off.

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